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- His middle name of Widmer according to "Drollinger/Bailey 1600 to..." Ancestry family tree owned by Matthew Bailey.
This same tree has Adam as Adam Ludwig with no explanation as where that came from.
Nothing else found in records to support Widmer as a middle name. Plus one would expect to see the initial W. on the gravestone if not the middle name. GLD 9 Nov 2022.
H. Jackson Darst, "The Darsts of Virginia--A Chronicle of TenGenerations in the Old Dominion (With Sketches of the Cecil, Charlton,Glendy, Grigsby, Larew, Miller, Trolinger, Welch, Wygal and Wysor Families)," Williamsburg, VA, 1972, p. 368, et seq.: He was a prosperous farmer, who specialized in breeding cattle. Large numbers of his stock were driven to the Eastern outlets before the railroad arrived at Dublin in the mid-1850's. . . . [He] was held in "great esteem" by "all who knew him, rich and poor, white and black." He possessed "the entire confidence and respect of his fellow citizens.""
Apparently, John named the town of Elizabethton, Tennessee!
Ancestry.com
James T. Trolinger Obituary
Classification: Query
Posted: 8 Feb 2002 4:11PM GMT
Edited: 4 Feb 2005 8:37PM GMT
In a book I purchased I found an obituary for a James T. Trolinger,age 91, of Pulaski, VA. It is VERY lengthy, but here is the pertinent genealogy info: "Mr. Trolinger was a son of John and Mary Wygal Trolinger. April 8, 1886 he married Mary E. King and to this union the following children were born: John Edwin Trolinger, Henry Lewis Trolinger, William Pierce Trolinger, William Pierce Trolinger, Ellen King Trolinger, and twin girls who died at birth.
He is survived by one son, Henry Lewis Trolinger, of Johnson City, Tenn., one daughter, Mrs. Walter Price, Pulaski, and four grandchildren, Mrs. Stanyarne Little of Johnson City, Tenn., Mrs. R.J. Waugh, Pulaski, James T. Trolinger, Elizabethton, Tenn., and Lewis S. Price, Pulaski." The article also states "He was born and reared east of Dublin. His father, John T. Trolinger, named that town, andjoined with Stephen Trinkle, grandfather of former governor E. Lee Trinkle in donating the railway station site, and he was 12 when the first train ran to that stop." The article names numerous pallbearers and flower bearers, with many famiy names included. There is no date on the article, but based on articles on the backside, I think the year of death would be 1935. If interested in a copy, please contact me.
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DHD
H. Jackson Darst, "The Darsts of Virginia--A Chronicle of Ten Generations in the Old Dominion (With Sketches of the Cecil, Charlton, Glendy, Grigsby, Larew, Miller, Trolinger, Welch, Wygal and Wysor Families)," Williamsburg, VA, 1972, p. 368, et seq.: He was a prosperous farmer, who specialized in breeding cattle. Large numbers of his stock were driven to the Eastern outlets before the railroad arrived at Dublin in the mid-1850's. . . . [He] was held in "great esteem" by "all who knew him, rich and poor, white and black." He possessed "the entire confidence and respect of his fellow citizens.""
Name: John Trolinger Age in 1860: 53 Birth Year: abt 1807 Birthplace: Virginia Home in 1860: Western District, Pulaski, Virginia Gender: Male Post Office: Newbern
Household Members:
Name Age
John Trolinger 53
Mary Trolinger 45
Jas Trolinger 17
Mary Trolinger 10
Ellen Yost 15
Elizabeth Trolinger 84
1850 U.S. Federal Census - Slave Schedules
about John Trolinger
Gender: Female
Race: Black
Age: 28
Home in 1860: District 48, Pulaski, Virginia
Name of Slave Owner: John Trolinger
All Slaves Owned: Age Gender
65 Male
28 Female
18 Male
18 Male
14 Female
1850 United States Federal Census <http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=8054&enc=1>
about John Trotriger
Name: John Trotriger [John Trolinger] [John Trolinger] [John Trollinger]
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1808
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1850: District 48, Pulaski, Virginia
Gender: Male
Household Members:
Name Age
John Trotriger 42
Mary Trotriger 37
Henry Trotriger 17
Charlotte Trotriger 15
Margartt Trotriger 10
James Trotriger 8
Elzabeth Trotriger 70
Elza Flanagan 37
1870 United States Federal Census <http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=7163&enc=1>
about John Trollinger
Name: John Trollinger
Age in 1870: 62
Birth Year: abt 1808
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1870: Dublin, Pulaski, Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Newbern
Household Members:
Name Age
John Trollinger 62
Mary G Trollinger 56
Mary E Trollinger 18
Sarah Black 20
Ellen Yost 23
Robert Lorton 60
Sloan Osker 35
Sam Harden 17
1880 United States Federal Census <http://www.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=6742&enc=1>
about Jno. Trolinger
Name: Jno. Trolinger
Age: 73
Birth Year: abt 1807
Birthplace: Virginia
Home in 1880: Dublin, Pulaski, Virginia
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widower
Father's Birthplace: North Carolina
Mother's Birthplace: Virginia
Occupation: Farms
Household Members:
Name Age
Jno. Trolinger 73
Wm. B. Cecil 35 son in law
Mary E. Cecil 28 dau
Jas. M. Cecil 1 grandson
Nora Farmer 42
Amanda Wygal 32
Author Trollinger, John. grantee. Title Land grant 31 July 1847. Summary Location: Pulaski County. Description: 4 1/2 acres joining lands of James Wygall and John Trollinger. Source: Land Office Grants No. 99, 1846-1848, p. 247 (Reel 165). Part of the index to the recorded copies of grants issued by the Virginia Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Grants A-Z, 1-124, reels 42-190; Virginia State Land Office. Grants 125- , reels 369-.
Author Trollinger, John. grantee. Title Land grant 1 July 1858. Summary Location: Pulaski County. Description: 1 acre 1p. 10d. joining Jos. Cloyd?s inclusive survey and his own land. Source: Land Office Grants No. 115, 1858-1859, p. 62 (Reel 181). Part of the index to the recorded copies of grants issued by the Virginia Land Office. The collection is housed in the Archives at the Library of Virginia. Other Format Available on microfilm. Virginia State Land Office. Grants A-Z, 1-124, reels 42-190; Virginia State Land Office. Grants 125- , reels 369-.
- I would caution all family historians to not use middle names as solid fact just because they are found out in cyber space We are trying to deal in faces and evidence. When in doubt go to original sources if possible. Family trees as well as US and International marriage records should be used as guide lines not as stone cold facts. One never knows what level of scholarship the person who put out this data has.
Gordon L. Drollinger 9 Nov 2022
- Does your German family tree seem to be overloaded with Johanns and Marias? German children were given two names. Boys commonly were baptized with the first name Johannes (or Johann, often abbreviated Joh). German girls were baptized Maria, Anna or Anna Maria. This tradition started in the Middle Ages.
So a family could have five boys with the first name Johann. You can see the potential for confusion until you understand that the first name doesn?t mean a thing.
This is because German boys almost always were baptized with the first name Johannes (or Johann, abbreviated Joh). German girls were baptized Maria, Anna or Anna Maria. (This tradition started in the Middle Ages.) This means a family could (and commonly did) have five boys with the first name Johann. You can see the high potential for confusion until you understand that the first name doesn?t mean a thing.
Second Naming Tradition
The second name, known as the Rufname, along with the surname is what would be used in marriage, tax, land and death records.
So in a family with boys Johann Friedrich, Johann Peter, Johann Daniel, etc., the children would be called by (and recorded in documents as as) Friedrich, Peter and Daniel. Usually, the name Johannes in these records marked a ?true John? who would continue to be so identified.
By the 19th century, more Germans gave their children three names. Again, typically only one of the middle names was used throughout the person?s life. Roman Catholics often used saints? names, while most Protestant groups also included names from the Old Testament or even nonChristian mythology.
Nicknames
Another naming tradition involves nicknames, often called Kurzformen. In English, most nicknames are created by dropping the last syllable of the given name (for example, Christoper and Christine become ?Chris?). Germans, however, often shorten a given name by dropping the first part of it. It?s important to note that these familiar forms are used in church or other records, even though by today?s standards we might expect full or formal names to be used.
Some of the many examples (using more authentic but understandable German spellings) are:
Nicklaus = Klaus
Sebastian = Bastian
Christophel = Stophel
Christina = Stin or Stina
Katharina = Trin
Note that these familiar forms are used in church or other records, even though by today?s standards we might expect formal names to be used.
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